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09/02/2019 at 10:40 • Filed to: None | 0 | 17 |
One of the rural fuel companies in my region has ethanol-free gasoline. Only the 91 is marked as ethanol-free, the 87 is presumably the usual E10 blend.
If you look closely you can see the mechanical meter instead of the LCD panel you usually see today . T he nozzle hu ng on the side with a big on/off cover that swiveled across the slot, and every type of fuel had its own pump . But even with the old-style pumps , there wa s a fancy credit card station in the center of the island serving all 4 pumps.
It’s one of those agriculture
-centric
cooperatives you
see in rural areas, this one focused on fuels
. They
had clearly-labeled pumps for on-road vs off-road diesel. There was a
row of
large household propane tanks up in front, plus huge storage tanks at one side
. And, in
front of the main
building
under an awning, a place to sit:
I only noticed it on the way out so the photo sucks, but I’m pretty sure that’s a bench seat from a pickup or SUV bolted to the concrete pad . F arm country is full of people who have mastered the art of making use of whatever they have handy .
The reason we were there was that I was doing some work with a guy who found that his small engines ( lawn care type stuff, mostly 2-stroke) start more easily and require less maintenance with ethanol-free gasoline. He uses ordinary gas station blend in his cars because they run fine and it’s considerably easier to find. I don’t currently own any gasoline engines myself, so the main thing I do with ethanol is drink it, typically in some b rewed form from a handheld glass or metal container .
Boxer_4
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09/02/2019 at 11:38 | 1 |
One of the local fuel chains (Wawa) offers ethanol free 89 at their newer locations.
(Ignore the prices, I pulled this photo off the web)
SiennaMan
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09/02/2019 at 11:45 | 0 |
There's an amusing car themed shirt in this story somewhere.. "ethanol is for drinking.." or the like..
Discerning
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09/02/2019 at 11:47 | 1 |
I like ethanol and I wish more stations sold e85.
I also wish they'd start selling e100. That would be fantastic.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
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09/02/2019 at 11:51 | 1 |
Our local Conoco has ethanol free 91. I run it in my Datsun 240z, lawn mower and snow blower. It really does make a difference with small engines, the lawn mower will fuss and spit with normal blended gas but runs great with the Ethanol free stuff.
shop-teacher
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09/02/2019 at 11:59 | 4 |
I can’t get it around where I live, but whenever I visit Wisconsin I make sure to fill up with as much ethanol free premium as I can stuff into my truck’s tank. It gets notably better fuel economy, thanksto ethanol’s lower energy density.
ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> Discerning
09/02/2019 at 12:15 | 0 |
Race gas basically
CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever
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09/02/2019 at 12:15 | 1 |
I get 89 E free. I just need my passport to buy it
Discerning
> ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
09/02/2019 at 12:20 | 0 |
Yup. And cheaper than 87 octane if it was mass produced (I assume).
IndyCar ran e98 before switching back to e85. But I think that had more to do with Sunoco moving to e85, but who knows with Speedway taking over.
ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability
> Discerning
09/02/2019 at 12:33 | 1 |
If I could get E100, my Vette would make more than 500 wheel with headers. Me likey that very much
facw
> Discerning
09/02/2019 at 12:35 | 0 |
I doubt it would be cheaper. Something like 40% of US corn production already goes to ethanol, I don’t really think there’s enough corn to make cheap, mass-produced E100.
Dakotahound
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09/02/2019 at 12:45 | 0 |
It is very important to use ethanol free gasoline for engines that will sit for long periods of time (boats, mowers, etc.). The additives that are used to stabilize the gasoline-ethanol blend can really gum up carburetors and fuel injectors. In a car that is run regularly , the fuel cycles through the engine before the additives can separate, so the blend will not cause any harm.
If you cannot regularly get ethanol-free gasoline, and you will be storing the equipment for a while, just run some ethanol-free gas through the engine before it is stored. I know people who run gasoline-ethanol blends in their boats and, just before putting them away for the season, run a tank of ethanol-free. It seems to work fine.
Chinny Raccoon
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09/02/2019 at 14:56 | 0 |
We are about to get 10% ethanol fuel. My local has pumps for heating oil and tractor fuel, which can be useful. Only standard petrol and diesel, no choice on octane though.
NoMoreTDI
> SiennaMan
09/02/2019 at 16:40 | 2 |
I like the shirt that says, “Corn is for Flakes! Don’t put it in your gas tank!
BigBlock440
> facw
09/02/2019 at 18:42 | 0 |
Sure there is, there’s way more ethanol burned through E10 than there would be changing every E85 gallon to E100.
Ian
> Discerning
09/02/2019 at 23:34 | 0 |
It’s a mixed bag. On one hand, if your vehicle will take
ethanol, E85 is a great option. However, it really sucks for those of us
with older cars/bikes which weren’t designed for gasahol and for which
even E10 causes serious issues. On my bike specifically (a 1980
Kawasaki) ethanol wrecks havoc on my in-tank filter screens and petcock
seals.
Ideally we’d have expanded availability of E85 for vehicles which can run it, with the normal stuff being ethanol free.
Discerning
> Ian
09/02/2019 at 23:39 | 0 |
Completely understand. My truck is a flex fuel setup and I've had previous vehicles tuned for more ethanol (anywhere from e30 mix to e85). I love it and hope it continues to exist, but I can understand that some cars don't run well on ethanol
Ian
> shop-teacher
09/02/2019 at 23:39 | 0 |
If youre getting vetter economy, then it’s probably a placebo or a subconscious change in driving behavior. IIRC the energy density of ethanol is about 60% that of gaso
line. With E10, that means that 10% of the gas has 30% less energy than E0, or an overall difference of around 3%. If your truck got 50mpg, you could expect an extra 1.5mpg due to
ethanol-free gas, which is pretty well within the m
argin of error from fill-up to fill-up.